Get a Grip on the History of this Book:

"The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science.
Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man.
To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties – this knowledge, this feeling … that is the core of the true religious sentiment.
In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men."
On Science, Awe, and Humility
(read more @ Alfred Einstein Thoughts of a FreeThinker)
Spirituality =/= Religion. One breathes life. Religion is tradition, to "tie it back," literally.

Welcome to my blog. This is how I talk...
It is not a dissertation or outlined. It is an exhortation, and may at times sound foolish, so be it.
Is life eternal? Who knows for sure. But -- I see people who understood their own times (Jesus clearly was such a person) and I exhort us to understand ours, now.
While this blog reeks of my personality and writing style -- the Bible (and Christ) have at least the scent of God, of something more abiding and eternal than a mystic emotion of awe and reverence.
This book deals with and as a language talks about spiritual matters.
To understand (versus just appreciate the impact of) this book is, literally Jesus, Lord and Christ. The central premise of the book defies imagination and human experience; it demands faith, and as such deals with the impossible.
Its depth has many layers, which is sometimes hard to hear when politico-religion is around, sounding the call to submit, attend, participate and donate. And, in the United States, to also "incorporate" for tax (avoidance) purposes.
[[A Psalm] of David.]] I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
In the day when I cried thou answeredst me, [and] strengthenedst me [with] strength in my soul.
All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O LORD, when they hear the words of thy mouth."
Though the LORD [be] high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off
The history of the preservation, translations, and censorships of the language and concepts of this "book" [starting apparently with papyri] is itself in part a history of the world -- politics -- nations. Obviously, it also speaks to the control of wealth and confronts it.
and now here we are on the internet, where words and creeds are cheap. (far too cheap and too easy to propagate).
It is a history of sweat, tears, drama and fire (book-burnings, people-burnings) and bloodshed. It was spread, with changes of technology and languages; and
For some reason, the understanding and action on this book was a threat to power, and to accumulated wealth-- which tells us something about this type of power, and wealth.
Religious people exist - -and can be seriously disruptive. I suggest -- getting a grip on the language (and history) of this book, if nothing else, for survival reasons.

Could you describe nature, its origins, its behaviors, like this? [Or, do you want to lament to God, "Why me??"] Check out Job 38, when the LORD, after hearing (37 chapters of theological debate, who's to blame for Job's suffering..) the LORD finally quizzes not his miserable (self-righteous) psychoanalysts -- only back then it was religious -- but Job himself.
. . .Actually, less a quiz than a challenge -- like standing (alone of course) to defend one's beloved thesis, in hopes of that blessed Ph.D. -- and realizing one is empty-handed: Job 38
"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? [smile...] Gird up your loins now and answer me like a man! Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth...who laid the cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy?" ... Where is light and darkness?[v.19]; "Who hath put wisdom in the heart, and understanding in the inward parts?" [v.36]
Where is light and darkness, indeed! Men still wish to know! NASA, MIT, FermiLab and various universities are still working on it . . . . . must be powerful information to invest such fortunes into exploring...
Department of Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139 (Dated: June 15, 2001)

The existence of light (a massless U(1) gauge boson) is one of unresolved mysteries in nature.

In this paper, we would like to propose that light is originated from certain quantum orders in our vacuum. We will construct quantum spin models on lattice to demonstrate that some quantum orders can give rise to light without breaking any symmetries and without any fine tuning.
Through our models, we show that the existence of light can simply be a phenomenon of quantum coherence in a system with many degrees of freedom. Massless gauge fluctuations appears commonly and naturally in strongly correlated quantum systems which originally contain no gauge fields.

PACS numbers: 11.15.-q"

(MIT Xiao-Gang Wen: The Origins of Light)

Who puts wisdom in the heart?
Do we normally think in those terms--of wisdom, as a quality, which can be planted, engrained, or even poored into a heart? We don't yet know where light comes from -- so with all our institutions, anyone have a definition, way to implant, and who can tell what is the origin of "wisdom"??
...after a while of this interrogation (still presumably being destitute and completely covered with disease) Job replies -- I will lay my hand upon my mouth....
Generally speaking, most people won't come to God (or, this word) until life has got them speechless. But "speechless" is appropriate before this text. Reading it, one is in the presence of something older, very probably wiser (even if "collected wisdom") and more perceptive than onesself. It, and its language, just may have some serious insight & wisdom you just do not have! . .
What would persuade men to risk their lives, and end up burned at the stake, rather than recant on their translation of this book, and instead of saying "FORGET you -- this is MY survival, here!" to future generations, literally say things like (Jesus, allegedly) "Lord forgive them, for they know not what they do?" -- or (Stephen, on being stoned, Acts 7, allegedly) "Lord, lay not this sin to their charge!" -- or Wm. Tyndale, 1536 A.D., Lord, Open thou the King of England's eyes!" . Why? -- or for that matter, why were these men murdered to start with? Does the world really NEED a continual provision of scapegoats and bloodshed over who rules this place? If so, then perhaps they need the central message of Christ! -- or at a minimum of the books which similarly foretell of the need for redemption and prophesy of a Redeemer to come! Why did they value it so highly -- and why do religions today clearly (which this blog will illustrate) value almost anything higher than this Bible, while quoting it?
And what IS it about those psalms? . . . how can you not admire this plain speech and sentiment?....
"But know that the LORD hath set apart him that is godly for himself: the LORD will hear when I call unto him.
Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still.Selah
Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time [that] their corn and their wine increased." (from Psalm 4)

Who can really summarize this topic? But I WILL speak to it -- and while the experience is shared by many (women and mothers), not enough are speaking out about it.
Now is the time to understand its concepts, and how that church-state hybrid never (ever) had any blending with the gospel in purpose and intent, and by about 300 (possibly 200) A.D. also had little in common with its language.
Which of course, can still change....
Let the games begin...

Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Lost in Translation? Or Simple Loss of Courage

I wanted these links to be near the top of the post.  After struggling with HTML for (too long), I'm dumping this onto a post as an expression of sentiment.  Almost makes me want to go back to wordpress!!

What I see in men who changed history was the courage of their calling.  What I see in theologians trying (in USA Election 2012 as in prior decades) is simply cowardice.  MOST of them are on the coat-tails of the Vatican, although the Bush family line is less than "noble" in its habits and alliances.  Five hundred years after William Tyndale, who translated as a fugitive from King Henry VIII, and eventually paid for it with his life (being probably less than 40 at the time) - -- people still can't handle Tyndale, and probably can't touch his talent and backbone with a ten-foot pole.

I also (on this blog) the other day typed an entire "page" and can't locate that page right now.  Am probably missing my own calling here -- without support staff to clean up the work, or a copyeditor, or the time to do it right.  THAT SAID, I do see an entire (and major) gap in coverage of important matters; and hope against hope to get to it before the end of my lifetime.    (Arrgh....)

This post will show my clear rebuttal of the doctrine of the "trinity" and assertion that it had to be imposed by force, necessitated ignoring the clarity of scripture, and that it took hold for the next two thousand years, while competent translators of the scripture, many who risked and lost their lives in so doing -- did not buy into it, and with their work, spread literacy and helped topple entire empires -- or at least force global-domination-empires to regroup.  

Many of these reformers also knew the advantage of new technology and used it to advantage.

Their translations were often burned along with them; Huss (it's said) was burned with Wycliffe Bibles as fuel.  

Forcing the issue, the church authorities then seek control of position and wealth (i.e., close to political authorities) and then start naming who's a heretic. As a woman and mother, I basically have completely lost respect for the associations and institutions -- as they struggle to determine who is and who is not a heretic, forming clumps (or going "ecumenical") -- somehow they consistently forget to force their membership to stop abusing members of their own family, parishioners, congregants, or in short people who show up within range.  Are times less feudal now?  Not in behavior and not in intent.


30 A.D. or so.

Being only about 30 yrs old, Jesus, a young itinerant preacher allegedly dies horribly and innocent on a Roman stake, among others, after first being labeled a threat to the state. 1500 years later, William Tyndale, another man about 40 also following his calling -- translation -- was betrayed, strangled, then burned at the stake for the crime of translating Greek manuscripts into his own language, English, which he virtually helped invent in the process.

500 more years later, and a U.S. President by decree (Executive Order) tries again to blend religion and state by opening an "OFBCI" to streamline federal favors to the "right" religious groups.

State has always sought to exploit or control religion;it is a powerful ally or enemy in global control, and its noncompliant prophets are literally dangerous to the status quo. For another, if it didn't, religious groups would tear each other apart by the throats, anyhow, causing civil unrest...

. . . . Fast-Forward a few hundred years after Jesus' death. They still can't agree: Who was he? A Roman emperor settles the bishop's sectarian debate (and power struggles) by decree:

In A.D. 312, Constantine won control of the Roman Empire in the battle of Milvian Bridge. Attributing his victory to the intervention of Jesus Christ, he elevated Christianity to favored status in the empire. "One God, one Lord, one faith, one church, one empire, one emperor" became his motto. ...To counter a widening rift within the church, Constantine convened a council in Nicaea in A.D. 325. A creed reflecting the position of Alexander and Athanasius was written and signed by a majority of the bishops.

381 -

"In AD 381, Theodosius, emperor of the eastern Roman empire, issued a decree in which all his subjects were required to subscribe to a belief in the Trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This edict defined Christian orthodoxy and brought to an end a lively and wide-ranging debate about the nature of God; all other interpretations were now declared heretical. ..A Turning Point which time Forgot" (Heretics, Pagans and the Dawn of the Monotheistic State / Book review)

. . .Fast-Forward one thousand years or so... and it'sstill a matter of ecclesiastical power, with those challenging it, or translating that book, still being burned at the stake, sometimes along with their books.

Thanks to some of the following men, we can today (via internet) search Bible texts in sites like THIS. or THIS. Moreover Tyndale also contributed in good part to the development of English itself through his work, I hear.

These examples -- as well as of JLC himself -- make me believe there may still be hope for those who understand their times -- and their callings, and commit to it. It may make for a rough life and horrible death, but it CAN change history, topple empires, and by the grace of God, will. Right now, as then, the empires are economic, military, and use traditional religion to encourage compliance of the masses.

1320-1384 The Work of Wyclif [Wycliffe] and Its Impact
(sets some historical context)
Latin was at the top of the linguistic hierarchy – it was the language of literacy and formal education across Europe. Everyday speech was further stratified by class; the aristocracy spoke Anglo-Norman, a dialect of French, while commoners spoke Middle English. Since the Wycliffite Bible was translated into common English during a period of social and political unrest, as well as religious dissent, English-language Bibles became symbols of heretical beliefs. Wycliffe's teachings were condemned in 1382In 1409, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Arundel, issued thirteen Constitutions which prohibited the translation of any biblical text into English as well as the public or private reading of such textsViolators were excommunicated and charged with heresy, which was punishable by death. English-language Bible manuscripts were pushed underground throughout the next 130 years, kept carefully by lay readers. Over 250 Wycliffite Bibles have survived to the present"
(from a curator at "Early English Bibles")

Huss (Bohemia) took up Wycliffe. His murder inspired further resistance.
1450s - Gutenberg. while not the inventor of the printing press definitely popularized it, And yes, printed Bibles. Making it harder to stamp out Huss & Wycliffe, among other things. (see great summary of its effects, and context :

At the height of the Hussite crisis in the early 1400's, when the authorities ordered 200 manuscripts of heretical writings burned, people on both sides realized quite well the significance of that act. Two hundred handwritten manuscripts would be hard to replace. Not only would it be a time consuming job, but also trained scribes would be hard to find. After all, most of them worked for the Church, and it seemed unlikely that the Church would loan out its scribes to copy the works of heretics."
One of my personal heroes... He translated on the fly.. He fled King Henry VIII --how'd you like to do that?Absolutely unbelievable -- read some of the saga.

1473-1543 Copernicus (classics, law, theology, math, metaphysics, languages and astronomy) puts the sun (not the earth) at the center of the cosmos. But the Church at the time was more, "Aristotle).

1483-1546 Luther (accused of being "Hussite" in 1519, goes to the library to defends himself; realizes he probably was, thereby losing the debate and beginning his break with Rome...),

1564-1642 Galileo, and his telescope (ca. 1610), went with Copernicus, based on the evidence. eventually winning for himself (ca. 1633) from the Inquisition, lifetime house arrest. Copernicus' 1543 book was banned in 1615, and Galileo having published in Italian (not Latin) also caused problems. Like many of these men, Galileo's skills surfaced early in life


The 'technology for all times' is still I should say, holy spirit. the still nearly-unknown Lord Jesus Christ, and the power in that name. And in every single generation, someone has to stand up to the corruption of their time.

And who better, perhaps, than women who have stood up to their religiously abusive men and been spat out of marriage, or even lost children to the state because of it? I suspect there is a reason the authorities are so afraid of us.

. . .But I suspect that, like the above men, it's not going to be an ancient formula propagated to protect an empire (in A.D. 381 or so) that will save life, or heal, in our dark hours. It will have to be the genuine article, backed by the living God. (Acts 2, Peter, after explaining that David, in Psalm 110, spoke as a prophet of this same Jesus, the time was NOW for that audience):

"Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, andhaving received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth** this, which ye now see and hear Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost...for the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.. . .And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

"Then they that gladly received his word were baptized."

It's simple. Those words speak to some, and do not to others. Still true today.

Or, you could go with a theologian's struggle (yr. 2002, 2006) to understand why Tyndale, so familiar with the scripture, failed to talk about the Trinity, but with effort (and repetition), it could perhaps be squeezed into the equation: The man writes, admitting he can't make sense of it, but probably not willing to risk his life -- or social excommunication (being a clergyman) as Tyndale did:

"When I first thought about the Trinity I could not see the validity of any of the explanations meant to help us understand the concept of Three Persons and One God. I could only make sense of the Trinity if I looked at it as a family. The family name is God, and in that family there are three Persons— the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit—but it is one Family. Although Tyndale does not have much teaching about the Trinity . . ."

[And then goes on to talk about "God the Trinity" where the Bible consistently talks about "God our Father." etc.]

[ discusses why Tyndale translated Ex 3:14 s I will become what I will become rather than "I AM that I AM" which is then often tied to John 8:58 to justify Jesus having said that he was God.. Among the most intelligent comments is this one:

"Consider the possibility that his translation is more in keeping with the original than more "PC" translations. Perhaps goes some way toward understanding why the infinitely wise church fathers had Tyndale burned at the stake for his unpardonable crime of rendering the Bible accessible to those (not a high number in his time) who had the ability to read in the common tongue.

Read more: Why didn't William Tyndale translate Ex 3:14 as "I AM"? Isn't that an important rendering for the Trinity? Ex 3:14 Then sayde God vnto Moses: I wilbe what I wilbe: ad he sayde, this shalt thou saye vnto the children of Israel: I wilbe dyd send me to you. |

Let's try this again:
"Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, andhaving received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth** this, which ye now see and hear

**in Greek, the word "shed forth" is used of things poured out. The audience had just had a dramatic demonstration.

See also I Cor. 12:7. When there is nothing to see, or hear, then people continue to talk (another sample)-- and listen to the sound of their own voices, as opposed to this gospel which -- again, the record is clear -- will create nonconformists likely to be put under lifetime house arrest, and/or simply be killed, as their own ALLEGED leader was.

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